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- <title>
- Aug. 19, 1991: Profile:Robert Bly
- </title>
- <history>
- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1991
- Aug. 19, 1991 Hostages:Why Now? Who's Next?
- </history>
- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
- <hdr>
- PROFILE, Page 52
- The Child Is Father Of the Man
- </hdr>
- <body>
- <p>How ROBERT BLY transformed his struggle with an alcoholic dad
- into a strange, mythicized phenomenon of celebrity and mass
- therapy
- </p>
- <p>By Lance Morrow
- </p>
- <p> Failure is the toughest American wilderness. Robert Bly,
- who is now a leader of the men's movement and author of Iron
- John, spent some years in the territory. His wilderness lies
- three hours west of Minneapolis, out toward the South Dakota
- border, in flat farm country around Madison (pop. 2,000), Minn.,
- "the Lutefisk Capital of the World."
- </p>
- <p> Bly was the high school valedictorian who went to hell,
- who might have amounted to something as a farmer but instead
- lived on a spread his father gave him. He raised four children
- but otherwise, in Madison's eyes, produced nothing except
- obscure poetry for 25 years. He drove old cars and wore old
- clothes, and when Vietnam came around, he talked like a
- communist. His father, Jacob Bly, was a respected farmer who
- turned alcoholic. Robert had to fetch him out of the bars
- downtown sometimes.
- </p>
- <p> A double humiliation: his father's alcoholism, his own
- failure. Why did Bly stay on all those years, during the prime
- of his life, on the nonworking farm half a mile from his
- father's boozing? "The alcoholic parent is not satisfied with
- his own childhood," Bly says, using the bruised rhetoric of
- recovery. "He wants yours too." When the father vanishes into
- alcohol, the son lingers and lingers, searching for a lost part
- of himself.
- </p>
- <p> The old man, Jacob Bly, was living on a diet of Hamm's
- beer and doughnuts in the last days: the breakfast of
- champions. Robert confronted him about the drinking one day, and
- his father said, "Go to hell!" Robert had been meaning to bring
- up that subject for years, and he felt much better after he did.
- </p>
- <p> Tolstoy was wrong when he said all happy families are the
- same, and all unhappy families are unhappy in different ways.
- It is surely the other way around. Family misery has a sameness,
- a sort of buried universality: "I come from a dysfunctional
- family," people always say when they start their 12-step
- testimonies, and then they all launch into the same story,
- though with a thousand different shadings and details.
- </p>
- <p> It is Bly's story, to some extent, with the difference
- that whatever Madison may have once thought, Bly is a gifted
- poet, critic and showman who has transformed his long struggle
- into a strange, mythicized American phenomenon of celebrity and
- mass therapy. Bly is the bardic voice of that interesting but
- vaguely embarrassing business, the men's movement, which strikes
- many men as somehow unmanly. Well, says Bly, that shame is
- something they will have to get over.
- </p>
- <p> Bly's book Iron John has been 38 weeks on the best-seller
- list; he addresses men's gatherings around the country, speaking
- a fairy-tale code about "bringing the interior warriors back to
- life" and "riding the Red, the White and the Black Horses." He
- talks about each male's lost "Wild Man," that hairy masculine
- authenticity that began getting ruined during the Industrial
- Revolution, when fathers left their sons and went to work in the
- factories. The communion between father and son vanished, the
- traditional connection, lore passing from father to son. And
- with it went the masculine identity, the meaning and energy of
- a man's life, which should be an adventure, an allegory, a
- quest. Bly, with some validating help on television from Bill
- Moyers, has brought the masculine psyche onto the stage of
- Oprah-consciousness. There it is either enjoying its 15 minutes
- of fame or remaking Americans' understanding of men, and
- therefore of men and women and of life itself.
- </p>
- <p> "You cannot become a man until your own father dies," Bly
- says. Bly's father died three years ago at the age of 87 in a
- Minnesota nursing home. Bly is 64, so by his own reckoning, he
- did not become a man until he was 61. He was a long time working
- on it.
- </p>
- <p> A man's goal in his quest is a kingliness, a regal
- self-possession. Bly looks kingly enough at moments as he sits
- in his new Minneapolis house--a handsome, substantial
- Midwestern paterfamilias place that he has just acquired. He
- divides his time among this house, another on Minnesota's Moose
- Lake and stops on his lecture tours. The Minneapolis house feels
- cleansed of ghosts and even gentrified. A poet named Louis
- Jenkins (author of a splendid collection called All Tangled Up
- with the Living and other books) is doing some work around the
- place for Bly and emerges from the basement from time to time
- as if he had been down there rewiring the house's unconscious.
- Bly sautes scallops for his solitary lunch, which he takes at
- the kitchen table in the company of a new biography of Goethe
- and Robert Fagles' translation of The Iliad.
- </p>
- <p> Bly is too much a showman (with a touch of the mountebank)
- to stay in the king's role for very long. I have a theory that
- children of alcoholics make brilliant mimics, because reality
- and identity for them are unstable, subject to sudden
- disappearances and weird transformations. They are constantly
- auditioning nuanced identities in hopes of pleasing insanely
- unpredictable parents. At the kitchen table now, Bly becomes his
- spiritual and poetic mentor, William Butler Yeats, going trancey
- and reciting The Lake Isle of Innisfree in a high Irish
- singsong, tone-deaf Yeats sliding up and down at the end of the
- line searching for the note.
- </p>
- <p> For many years, Bly supported his family by giving poetry
- readings. His voice is a highly developed instrument that he
- uses to take many different parts: monsters, little boys,
- savages, princesses and even his mother years ago whining at his
- father, "Why do you always have to behave like this?" which, of
- course, gave old man Bly the signal he needed to head off in an
- explosion of dudgeon for the bar.
- </p>
- <p> Bly says it was around 10 years ago that he began working
- on the Iron John story. "I had been giving seminars in fairy
- tales to support myself--mostly to women. I realized that I
- had no fairy stories to teach men. In Grimm, only a few are
- about men. Iron John was the first I found that was clearly
- about the growth stages of men."
- </p>
- <p> The book is an explication of the tale of a boy who frees
- a Wild Man, Iron John, whom the boy's father, the king, has
- locked in a cage. Iron John takes the boy into the forest and
- step by step teaches him the secrets of being a man. In the
- fullness of maturity, he becomes a man and marries his princess.
- Bly tires of repeating that the men's movement is not against
- women. Nor does the Wild Man imply savagery, brutality,
- aggression, obtuseness, smashing beer cans against the forehead
- or shooting small animals for the pleasure of watching them die.
- </p>
- <p> In fact, by Bly's calculation, there are at least seven
- different men's movements: 1) a sort of right-wing men's
- movement that is, in fact, frequently antifeminist; 2) feminist
- men; 3) men's rights advocates who think, for example, men get
- a raw deal in divorce; 4) the Marxist men's movement; 5) the gay
- men's movement; 6) the black men's movement, extremely important
- in Bly's view because of the devastation to black males in
- American society; and 7) men in search of spiritual growth, the
- Bly wing of the idea, dealing with mentors and "mythopoetics."
- The mythopoetic characters, Bly points out, are dividing into
- two groups: those concentrating on recovery and those, like Bly,
- who are interested in men's psyches as explored by art,
- mythology and poetry.
- </p>
- <p> "The recovery tone can trap you into being a child," says
- Bly. "The myth honors your suffering; it gives images of an
- adult manhood that you will not meet in your community. It takes
- you out of your victimhood."
- </p>
- <p> Bly's ice-blue Norwegian eyes and white hair give him a
- theatrical air. His complexion sometimes radiates up to an
- alarming red, and he puffs a little after marching up the
- stairs. A large cast of characters of many ages flickers around
- his eyes and face. He strikes one as a struggling man, something
- like a difficult older brother. As he says, "The shifts take
- place with incredible speed. When I sit down at the table with
- my wife, do I speak to her as a self-pitying little boy or a
- victim? If I slip into the depressed victim of six years old,
- I'll be no good to anyone."
- </p>
- <p> He sees the men's movement--and his own celebrity--from the inside. It is a deeply formed, logical part of his own
- biography. It is an outcome of his years as a student at Harvard
- just after World War II, studying poetry with Archibald
- MacLeish, and then of a long depressed period, when he lived
- alone in New York City, subsisting on three-day-old bread,
- reading Rilke in the New York Public Library. "I thought I would
- end as a sort of bag lady," he says. "I lived like an orphan.
- I said, `I am fatherless.'" After a stretch at the Iowa
- Writers' Workshop, he married Carol McLean, a writer he had met
- at Harvard. (They were divorced in 1979, and he is now married
- to Ruth Ray, a Jungian analyst.)
- </p>
- <p> In 1955 Robert and Carol Bly "went to hide out at the
- farm" on the edge of the Lutefisk Capital of the World. Lutefisk
- is a Norwegian dried fish, an item of sentimental immigrant
- nostalgia and distinctly an acquired taste. Madison has a large
- metal sculpture of the lutefisk beside the main road into town.
- (Another artistic item in town: a wooden sculpture with a sign
- that says INDIAN DONE BY LOCAL CHAIN-SAW ARTIST.)
- </p>
- <p> Bly published his first book of poetry, Silence in the
- Snowy Fields, in 1962. "The land was flat and boring," he says.
- "That was my whole problem in writing poems about that country.
- I called it Silence in the Snowy Fields because at least it was a
- little more interesting with snow on it."
- </p>
- <p> Bly may not be alive to certain absurdities in the men's
- movement that others see. Ask him about the drumming, for
- example, which strikes some as a silly, self-conscious attempt
- at manly authenticity, almost a satire of the hairy chested, and
- he pours forth a thoughtful but technical answer: "The drum
- honors the body as opposed to the mind, and that is helpful. It
- heats up the space where we are." As a spiritual showman
- (shaman), Bly seeks to produce certain effects. He is good at
- them. He could not begin to see the men's movement, and his
- place in it, as a depthless happening in the goofy circus of
- America. It is odd that Bly is not more put off by the earnest
- vulgarity of the enterprise.
- </p>
- <p> Perhaps the men's movement is a very American exercise
- anyway: it has that quality of Americans' making fools of
- themselves in brave pop quests for salvation that may be
- descendants of the religious revivals that used to sweep across
- the landscape every generation or so in the 18th and 19th
- centuries. The men's movement belongs as well to the habits of
- the '60s baby boomers, who tend to perceive their problems and
- seek their solutions as a tribe.
- </p>
- <p> A Bly theme lies there. The boomers are a culture of
- siblings. Their fathers are all dead. The '60s taught that the
- authority of fathers (Lyndon Johnson, the Pentagon, the
- university, every institution) was defunct. The boomers
- functioned as siblings without fathers. Is it the case that now,
- like Bly, they are looking for the vanished father in
- themselves?
- </p>
- <p> Something in American men is distinctly boyish--a
- quality that can be charming or repellent, depending. Unlike men
- from other cultures, they sometimes seem to be struggling every
- day to make the transition from boyhood to manhood. George Bush
- constantly enacts, within the course of a single crisis (the
- gulf war, for example), the drama of his own growing up: a
- period of passivity and confusion is followed by a mobilization
- of manhood. Blowing up Iraq, Bly thinks, was the product of all
- the wrong male qualities--aggressiveness addicted to
- high-octane power that goes foraging elsewhere in the world for
- a mission while its own house is rotting away.
- </p>
- <p> The kingly man is a public man, even if he is a poet.
- Shakespeare used to adorn the British 20-lb. note. Perhaps, I
- suggest jokingly, Bly's face will one day be on the $20 bill.
- "I hate being a pop figure," he winces. But he has made the
- transition from private trauma to public stage. His testimony
- in effect now begins, "I come from a dysfunctional country."
- </p>
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